| # | User | Message | Date |
| 5448 | Gregg | This is a very large world Yu Shen, so no worries. I see Endo sent it, but you can always post in I'm New, so people know you're just finding your way around. | Thu 22:16 |
| 5447 | GrahamC | Rebol central sounds like a good place to collate information on all the rebol derivatives | Thu 17:27 |
| 5446 | yubrshen | Sorry not sure if this is the right place to ask. I'm overwhelmed with some many forum/place to post, and visit. I want to find a copy of Excel Dialect, but it's no longer available at http://www.robertmuench.de/download/, could you help me to locate a copy of it? Thanks a lot! | Thu 12:02 |
| 5445 | Reichart | Quick note. | Wed 18:19 |
| 5444 | Reichart | Quick not, I own the domain www.rebolcentral.org, it is coming up for renewal, I don't plan to renew, if anyone wants it I will hepl transfer it. | Wed 18:18 |
| 5443 | sqlab | This happened only for a short time in a few groups. Syncing was slow for all the groups | Wed 7:13 |
| 5442 | Kaj | Was that in one group, or in multiple groups? | Wed 0:16 |
| 5441 | sqlab | after a few restarts it went away. maybe un unknown problem with the syncing | Sun 5:24 |
| 5440 | Gregg | I have had that issue with private messages at time here. Maybe due to the size of the world? | Sun 1:10 |
| 5439 | sqlab | AltMe behaves oddly. It does no longer show groups with new messages in red, even it loads down some of the new messages | 28-Jan 10:36 |
| 5438 | Kaj | The beta links on the site are dangerous and should have been removed years ago | 11-Jan 23:17 |
| 5437 | Kaj | That's not 0.4.2, that's version 1.2.21 for REBOL platform 042, meaning x86 Linux | 11-Jan 23:14 |
| 5436 | Evgeniy Philippov | which works OK, too | 11-Jan 21:02 |
| 5435 | Evgeniy Philippov | Official 0.4.2 available on AltME site works OK on gNewSense and auto-upgrades to 1.2.25 | 11-Jan 21:02 |
| 5434 | Kaj | That's also ancient. You should get 1.2.21, which auto-updates to 1.2.25 | 11-Jan 1:33 |
| 5433 | Dockimbel | Found the link for v1.1.24 | 10-Jan 19:32 |
| 5432 | Dockimbel | Is there a newer than v0.4.2 AltME client version for Linux Debian? | 10-Jan 19:29 |
| 5431 | Kaj | Apparently not prominently enough, considering that some people here think it's closed source | 30-Dec 15:36 |
| 5430 | Andreas | Removed the link to the Boron source code repository, as this link is also prominently present on the Boron website. | 29-Dec 22:37 |
| 5429 | Kaj | Changed Boron to the website home, and added an extra link for this source code repository | 29-Dec 19:19 |
| 5428 | Geomol | I added links to Boron and World to "Links" under checklists. | 29-Dec 11:48 |
| 5427 | Kaj | That was planned, but never implemented | 30-Nov 21:38 |
| 5426 | Henrik | If you click on the little wrench over the groups list, you can mark all messages read once. | 30-Nov 20:16 |
| 5425 | Henrik | Not that I know of. | 30-Nov 20:16 |
| 5424 | MagnussonC | I use AltME on two computers. Is there a way to have the messages colored unread only once, regardless of which PC I use to access my account? | 30-Nov 19:59 |
| 5423 | Reichart | I started adding the ! and ~ to help denote products that were REBOL, and offtopic stuff "~", etc. Sort on Alpha, anf it becomes very clear. | 24-Nov 9:19 |
| 5422 | Geomol | Thanks! | 23-Nov 21:46 |
| 5421 | BrianH | Particularly products written in REBOL. The !REBOL* groups are named like that because REBOL is partly written in REBOL. | 23-Nov 21:41 |
| 5420 | Dockimbel | IIRC, it was for products. | 23-Nov 21:39 |
| 5419 | Geomol | If forgot the reason, why some groups are prefixed by "!" ? Is that for products or does it mean commercial or what? | 23-Nov 21:39 |
| 5418 | Andreas | Or join the #rebol IRC channel on freenode. | 11-Nov 17:51 |
| 5417 | Henrik | That's not our decision. Users choose which method is best for communication and so far, AltME holds up pretty well. Users are free to use open forums like rebolforum.com or the Synapse forum. | 11-Nov 17:37 |
| 5416 | MagnussonC | Don't change anything for me. It's your call to choose how you want things to appear for the not yet initialized Rebol visitors. You already filter away the visitors pretty well by using AltME as the main forum ... | 11-Nov 17:36 |
| 5415 | Dockimbel | I wouldn't mind changing my ID to my real name if that can help. | 11-Nov 16:44 |
| 5414 | Sunanda | The preferred convention is real names. People have been grandfathered in (from the previous worlds) with nick names. If you do not like the member name you have, it can be changed if you put a good case to the moderators. | 11-Nov 16:16 |
| 5413 | Henrik | I don't mind funny nicks as long as the full name is also there. Makes it easier to find out who is who in other social networks. | 11-Nov 15:29 |
| 5412 | Andreas | But it's a long time since I signed up, so .... :) | 11-Nov 15:08 |
| 5411 | Andreas | I thought you can just give a preferred user name on signup. | 11-Nov 15:07 |
| 5410 | Ladislav | Hmm, I guess, that some of the administrators here enforce a convention, some may not, and that is why there is a "mix". | 11-Nov 15:03 |
| 5409 | Andreas | We have a username convention here :) ? | 11-Nov 15:00 |
| 5408 | MagnussonC | IMHO I think you should consider what message your user naming convention send to new users. For me it says that you treat some persons differently. That is bad if you like more people to come here. No one want's to be treated differently. Either you let everyone use whatever name they like or all use the same rules. | 11-Nov 10:52 |
| 5407 | GrahamC | Eg. squid with Rebol | 26-Oct 20:58 |
| 5406 | GrahamC | Many proxies don't work | 26-Oct 20:57 |
| 5405 | Singy | Are the proxy settings in AltMe working? I tried to run AltMe from work by inserting the proxy settings but it fails to connect to the internet. The docs on the website would seem to suggest that there is no proxy but having them in the settings confused me. | 26-Oct 20:07 |
| 5404 | Henrik | File sharing bug: Initial comment can only be 100 chars long. Subsequent edits can be longer than 100 chars. | 10-Oct 9:53 |
| 5403 | GrahamC | Just speaks to standards ... | 9-Oct 5:08 |
| 5402 | BrianH | And I don't have the time to write one myself :( | 9-Oct 0:34 |
| 5401 | BrianH | Nope, I don't do blame. | 9-Oct 0:32 |
| 5400 | GrahamC | You going to blame Carl ?? | 9-Oct 0:29 |
| 5399 | BrianH | It really irks me that I can't use AltME on my phone. My internet landline has been iffy lately, but if I have problems with my phone connection I can just walk somewhere else. | 9-Oct 0:10 |
| 5398 | PeterWood | You could send me a message as well. | 15-Sep 11:23 |
| 5397 | Henrik | well, better than stone tablets. :-) | 15-Sep 10:26 |
| 5396 | MagnussonC | Thanks, very modern approach ;p | 15-Sep 10:18 |
| 5395 | Endo | Send a message to Sunanda. | 15-Sep 10:16 |
| 5394 | MagnussonC | How do I change my username? | 15-Sep 10:14 |
| 5393 | shadwolf | you made me banned from that fake rebol school group you are so proud of but the truth is henrik tha recent rebol project submited to rtebol.org are just toys far from a cheyene! | 21-Aug 10:31 |
| 5392 | Henrik | Terms of use: Section 1: Personal attacks. | 21-Aug 10:31 |
| 5391 | shadwolf | yeah and who will implement you dictator wish henrik to hide your lack of result and your lack of balls to talk to me ? | 21-Aug 10:30 |
| 5390 | Henrik | I have thought up a new feature for AltME. It's called "terms of use" for a world. AFAIK we don't have any specific terms. | 21-Aug 10:28 |
| 5389 | shadwolf | this is not a young topic I think like 6 years ago I made that request too ... cause yet it's a pain for me to read this ... | 18-Aug 8:07 |
| 5388 | shadwolf | so for altme I have the choice betwin a size of 6 or a size of 8 :) | 18-Aug 8:06 |
| 5387 | shadwolf | so to be direct in rebol fonts a size of 14 = a size of 8 in another font system | 18-Aug 8:06 |
| 5386 | shadwolf | main problem is that the fonts in R2 scale isn't accurate ... we discussed it or at least try to when we writed area-tc and all we had as reply is don´t worry r3 is so much better and that was 2 years ago ... | 18-Aug 8:05 |
| 5385 | shadwolf | yeah even with it my eyes are on fire because it's too small ... and when my eyes hurts I'm not in a good mood for anything less reading tons of pages of those tiny fonts texts | 18-Aug 8:03 |
| 5384 | Endo | there is a font option in the message writing area, it makes the font a bit bigger | 18-Aug 8:01 |
| 5383 | shadwolf | altme 1.2.25 is invisible in the application circling in gnome3 (alt+ tab) and font are very small ... | 18-Aug 7:57 |
| 5382 | Gabriele | Robert, Reichart's question as I interpreted it: is there any product out there that does this? | 30-Jul 9:49 |
| 5381 | Henrik | "conflict with" => "affect" | 30-Jul 6:18 |
| 5380 | Henrik | another perhaps tricky element would be to solve the message limit. it seems currently to directly conflict with the memory usage of altME, due to the pane size of the message list. so we'd need an endlessly scrollable message list with variable height rows. | 30-Jul 6:16 |
| 5379 | Robert | Yes, should go into AltMe. And much, much faster display of large groups, without message limit. Virtual tables is the trick... | 29-Jul 22:50 |
| 5378 | Sunanda | 179,000+ posts and real time search: http://www.rebol.org/aga-index.r | 29-Jul 22:44 |
| 5377 | Robert | The stock Apple Mail program for example, or the Opera mailer... even google is near real-time for searching now. | 29-Jul 20:21 |
| 5376 | Oldes | I uderstand it, that Reichard wanna know, what is able to "handle 100.000 posts with instant realtime search and filterting." | 29-Jul 20:13 |
| 5375 | Robert | Well, it's the AltMe group hence the "it" = AltMe. | 29-Jul 19:17 |
| 5374 | Geomol | Robert, I think, Reichart mean, what 'it' is? In the sentence "The thing is, it doesn't scale." | 29-Jul 18:25 |
| 5373 | Robert | Reichart, don't get your question... | 29-Jul 15:01 |
| 5372 | amacleod | in function: Cirlcles = private groups, Uploads=shared files, Huddle=basic idea of altme-multi person chat, | 29-Jul 10:53 |
| 5371 | Henrik | Google Plus does not resemble AltME at all to me. | 29-Jul 7:12 |
| 5370 | amacleod | So google stole the altme idea put it on steroids and called it google plus! | 29-Jul 3:10 |
| 5369 | Reichart | Robert, what does this? | 14-Jul 21:00 |
| 5368 | Robert | The thing is, it doesn't scale. Way to slow for big groups. IMO it must handle 100.000 posts with instant realtime search and filterting. | 13-Jul 16:27 |
| 5367 | Maxim | the message protocol from the R3 dev chat. | 13-Jul 14:51 |
| 5366 | Gregg | And we can build it on top of 0MQ. What data exchange format are you talking about Max? | 13-Jul 2:28 |
| 5365 | Henrik | so, what should the name be... AltAltME? :-) | 12-Jul 18:33 |
| 5364 | Maxim | using the R3 data exchange format is probably even better. it supports just about everything we need. | 12-Jul 18:00 |
| 5363 | Henrik | I'm not sure if it's in the server part, but the file sharing is kind of weak. I don't know what Carl's plan for Altissimo would be, but I can imagine it would be a departure from how AltME works. All I really would like to see, is an open source clone of AltME, primarily because it's the best messaging/collaboration system, I've ever used. | 12-Jul 17:58 |
| 5362 | Maxim | its just a pity that all the server stuff is sorted out and works pretty much | 12-Jul 17:55 |
| 5361 | Henrik | well, the alternative is to build a functionally identical clone and post all sources on github. I'm sure there are a couple in here, who could take a stab at it. | 12-Jul 17:54 |
| 5360 | Maxim | I've even asked carl to take up dev for him (for free) a few times (throughout the years), but he never replies. | 12-Jul 17:36 |
| 5359 | Maxim | yes an open source altme would be GREAT !! imagine how powerfull it would be now. we could all have our own clients which simply adhere to the server specs. | 12-Jul 17:34 |
| 5358 | Reichart | Gerard, I'm not invovled in AltME anymore.... I like your idea, and I wish AltME was open source (which I have pushed hard for). | 12-Jul 17:25 |
| 5357 | Pekr | I think not. IIRC Altme is RT's responsibility .... | 12-Jul 16:12 |
| 5356 | Henrik | Is Reichart still involved in AltME development? | 12-Jul 15:43 |
| 5355 | Gerard | @ Reichart : We were discussing in the OPEN GL group about the default way AltMe permits to enter text - and we were 3 that think the default way to enter text would be the EDIT mode (the one that accepts Line feeds without submitting the post automatically. Would you be considering this option in a future release - even if I now realize that this is a global switch since when I submits new posts this mode is kept alive. I didn't ask for others to vote for this change but you can do it if you want - I find it really annopying - more than the obligation to commit messages by having to use the mouse each time. I know it's a productivity consideration but as I can't reedit my sent posts, sometimes they didn't look good - until I asked someone how to enter LFs. Thanks a lot for considering this request. Regards, Gerard | 12-Jul 15:24 |
| 5354 | Kaj | Ah yes, Syllable has a similar log format, and the program name mentioned in front is often not the place the message is originating from | 9-Jul 20:51 |
| 5353 | Maxim | I think its a message from the OS being logged by Altme. | 9-Jul 16:52 |
| 5352 | Kaj | Probably some counter overflow, but it's weird, because R2 is not supposed to have 64 bits values | 9-Jul 12:13 |
| 5351 | onetom | anyone knows whats this? i had altme open on my intel mac for a few weeks and this is what it was spitting onto the terminal. there was interesting glicth happening at the same time: my clicks were interpreted with some offset. | 8-Jul 18:03 |
| 5350 | onetom | 011-07-09 01:57:47.836 altme[3539:903] Warning - conversion from 64 bit to 32 bit integral value requested within NSPortCoder, but the 64 bit value 9223372036854775807 cannot be represented by a 32 bit value | 8-Jul 18:01 |
| 5349 | Pekr | no, it's altme.com, which si buggy, as I described. | 16-Jun 21:34 |
| 5348 | Kaj | altme.com is flexible about port numbers, but AltME running as server is not | 16-Jun 20:56 |
| 5347 | Kaj | Did you move one of those worlds to a different port? Are you aware that the port number is entered into a configuration file when the world is created? If you move it later, you have to edit the configuration file. AltME doesn't check for port conflicts on worlds you start | 16-Jun 20:54 |
| 5346 | amacleod | Thats what I got going on. two worlds on same port. I will try again but close off the other ports first...let you know how it goes...thanks all | 16-Jun 19:12 |
| 5345 | Pekr | amacleod - when starting second world, e.g. on port 5401, during the time of setting-up the world, please prohibit altme.com from accessing another port on already opened 5400 port. That is imo a bug I found, and it did not get fixed yet. So disable 5400 port temporarily on port 5400. Maybe it will be enough if you turn-off the world running on 5400 port, because I got into situation, when Altme.com pointed two different worlds to the same 5400 port ... | 16-Jun 16:57 |
| 5344 | amacleod | I tried maikng another world from altme.com hoping it would not assign the port until I started teh world for the first time with my desired port but no good...it was assigned 5400 so same issue. | 16-Jun 16:11 |
| 5343 | Kaj | Ah, altme.com may be temporarily confused by the previous world on that port. If it doesn't work after restarting the world a few times, something may have changed in altme.com | 16-Jun 16:08 |
| 5342 | amacleod | Kaj, I'm pretty sure I opened the whole range for altme 5400-5409 and I tried a port that I know is open which I had another world running on. | 16-Jun 16:03 |
| 5341 | Kaj | Alan, does your firewall allow the other port to be reached? I've never had much problems switching ports. Altme.com should detect the port change when the world is restarted, but it needs to be able to contact altme.com and the world shouldn't be run double on the old port | 16-Jun 14:23 |
| 5340 | Pekr | and also - there might be one bug I noticed and reported. When you start first world on 5400, and the other one on 5401, altme.com registers the second one on 5400 too. I overcame it by disallowing port 5400 on my firewall for the time of registration of the 5401 world, or it would connect users to my first world. | 16-Jun 14:03 |
| 5339 | Pekr | well, that might be tricky, as IIRC altme.com keeps the world info from xy days. You would have to let it time-out at altme.com, turning off the world for xy days imo. | 16-Jun 14:01 |
| 5338 | amacleod | is there a way to reset it on altme.com? | 16-Jun 13:31 |
| 5337 | amacleod | The world becomes unreachable when I start it on a different port. Altm.com still thinks its on port 5400 | 16-Jun 13:26 |
| 5336 | Pekr | I have following in my altme.cmd command line script: start altme -s "my-world" -p 5400 | 16-Jun 13:14 |
| 5335 | Pekr | http://altme.com/guide/advanced.html#sect0.9. | 16-Jun 13:13 |
| 5334 | Endo | there is a config.txt file in same folder with altme.exe but I'm not sure if there is an option like that. there is a line "host-port: 5400" but this is for client. | 16-Jun 13:12 |
| 5333 | Pekr | I think so, you can specify it as a command-line parameter. But port numbers are limited, IIRC. | 16-Jun 13:12 |
| 5332 | amacleod | Is there a way to change the port that an altme world uses? | 16-Jun 13:09 |
| 5331 | Kaj | It will corrupt all other programs that use time. It won't fix AltME's problems. We've tried | 10-May 11:13 |
| 5330 | Kaj | You can, if you want to make your problems worse | 10-May 11:12 |
| 5329 | GrahamC | Can't you just set the PCs all to GMT? | 10-May 7:28 |
| 5328 | Kaj | Gotta love it | 9-May 19:13 |
| 5327 | Kaj | That only fixes the redownloading, though. (For every changed file you want to fetch, you have to download all of them.) In the winter, files that you created in the summer will have the wrong status. In the summer, files that you created in any winter will have the wrong status | 9-May 19:12 |
| 5326 | Kaj | suck more | 9-May 19:10 |
| 5325 | Kaj | As usual, the non-Windows versions such more. In the winter, you can use AltME Linux version. In the summertime, you can switch to running the Windows version on WINE... | 9-May 19:09 |
| 5324 | Andreas | Thanks. Sucks. | 9-May 19:08 |
| 5323 | Kaj | No, this is the yearly daylight savings time problem. It's just not fixable. Redownloading doesn't help | 9-May 19:08 |
| 5322 | Andreas | I deleted and re-downloaded all files several times already, so I guess it's a different problem. | 9-May 19:07 |
| 5321 | BrianH | Once a year, go through and redownload every file in the world. And be careful to not repost those files, which is hard to do because of UI problems. | 9-May 19:07 |
| 5320 | Andreas | Any known fixes/workarounds? | 9-May 18:46 |
| 5319 | BrianH | It may be the daylight savings time bug, where that changeover makes all the file times apparently an hour off. This is because the AltME file time handling isn't converted to UTC. | 9-May 17:37 |
| 5318 | Andreas | I faintly recall having heard of this problem before, anyone has a clue what's going on (and more importantly: how to fix it?). I'm using AltME 1.2.25 on Linux. | 9-May 9:30 |
| 5317 | Andreas | In another AltME world I'm participating in, AltME file sharing is used to share 103 files, all of which I have downloaded. Every time I (re)connect, AltME offers me to re-download 63 of them. Irrespective of whether I re-download or not, I'm again offered this each and every time I connect. | 9-May 9:29 |
| 5316 | Dockimbel | Thanks to the Library Team. | 28-Apr 8:53 |
| 5315 | Sunanda | The Red group is now published on REBOL.org -- my thanks to Library Team for the discussion: http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp840x0 | 28-Apr 7:50 |
| 5314 | Sunanda | Thanks Doc -- I had not noticed that Red is flagged [web-public]. Theoretically, [web-public] gets you: ....automatically published on REBOL.net (though that appears to no longer be updated): http://www.rebol.net/altweb/rebol3/index.html ....and published on REBOL.org at the discretion of the Library Team. http://www.rebol.org/aga-groups-index.r?world=r3wp As Graham suggests there may be some issues, especially as REBOL.org is funded by RT. I'll ask the Library team to discuss. | 24-Apr 9:18 |
| 5313 | GrahamC | but I guess there might be some issue with hosting on rebol.org a group which is competition with Rebol?? | 24-Apr 9:12 |
| 5312 | GrahamC | to make sure it's not an error | 24-Apr 9:11 |
| 5311 | GrahamC | Sunanda has to ok it | 24-Apr 9:11 |
| 5310 | Dockimbel | I've made the Red group [web-public] a few weeks ago, but I still don't see it been exported: http://www.rebol.org/aga-index.r, does it require some admin validation? | 24-Apr 8:43 |
| 5309 | PeterWood | Just operational messages - four of them in total. It's happenned a couple of times before but is very infrequent. | 26-Mar-11 23:24 |
| 5308 | Kaj | Did it crash or were they just operational messages? | 26-Mar-11 15:05 |
| 5307 | Kaj | It seems to try to allocate a 3 GB file or area there. It's not surprising that fails, but it's surprising it would try that | 26-Mar-11 15:05 |
| 5306 | PeterWood | Got a few error message in the terminal session that AltME always opens (and leaves open after quitting.): altme(6254,0xa038c620) malloc: *** mmap(size=3021340672) failed (error code=12) *** error: can't allocate region *** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug | 26-Mar-11 13:21 |
| 5305 | Kaj | That memory use is unfortunately normal after running a while | 25-Mar-11 16:54 |
| 5304 | Henrik | hmm... I just experienced AltME in the Rebol 3 world with a memory leak and eating CPU. It was upward of 150 MB RAM usage, and then I killed the process. | 25-Mar-11 16:29 |
| 5303 | Endo | Possible bug in Altme: I connect to world rebol3 then click on world name on the top-left corner that opens a combobox to select other worlds which I connected previously, but non-existing worlds anymore. When I choose one of them Altme tries to connect and fails, then when I click on Return to World button altme get closed immediately without showing the message "Disconnecting". | 23-Mar-11 16:18 |
| 5302 | Janko | Altme works on my linux now ! Great | 22-Mar-11 8:38 |
| 5301 | Gregg | Agreed. | 17-Mar-11 20:59 |
| 5300 | Robert | Because of this switch all messages are set to read... really dumb. | 17-Mar-11 7:47 |
| 5299 | Robert | What drives me nuts with AltME is, that when it's reconnecting, that it switches display and don't just stay at the group and message where I am. It resets the list etc. | 17-Mar-11 7:47 |
| 5298 | Oldes | The font issue could be fixed easily if AltME would allow to specify font name or path to font in its settings. | 16-Mar-11 9:57 |
| 5297 | Kaj | That was for the ancient 1.1.29 | 16-Mar-11 3:10 |
| 5296 | Izkata | (At least, I think it was that one. I still have it sitting in my home directory) | 16-Mar-11 2:06 |
| 5295 | Izkata | I had to install libstdc++5_3.3.6-18_i386.deb for rebol to work | 16-Mar-11 2:05 |
| 5294 | Izkata | Been using it on Ubuntu 8.04 and now 10.04 (AltMe versions 1.1.29 and currently 1.2.21) | 16-Mar-11 2:04 |
| 5293 | Andreas | altme 1.2.25 works ok with debian 6 and ubuntu 10.10 for me. fonts are so-so, but at least usable | 16-Mar-11 0:04 |
| 5292 | Kaj | To work around that, you can run AltME on WINE, although that is slower | 15-Mar-11 22:13 |
| 5291 | Kaj | File sharing still suffers greatly from the daylight savings bug, though | 15-Mar-11 22:12 |
| 5290 | Kaj | It works fairly well on recent Ubuntu, although the fonts are better on some other distros | 15-Mar-11 22:11 |
| 5289 | Kaj | Been using the Linux versions as much as possible (which isn't always the case) since they exist | 15-Mar-11 22:10 |
| 5288 | jocko | works here with ubuntu 10.10 | 15-Mar-11 22:01 |
| 5287 | Janko | Is anyone using AltMe from linux (like a recent Ubuntu)? I moved to linux for 90% of things but I can't run altme there, and rebol view crashes also. I didn't look into depth of why.. | 15-Mar-11 20:54 |
| 5286 | Sunanda | Symptoms: if you've recently re-installed AltME, then the program runs continuously, endlessly resyncing that group. This happened before, and the workaround was to copy over a good copy of the 439.set file (thanks to Peter Wood for the good copy). But that no longer seems to work. I am going to delete the group and set up a new one with the same name. The archive of past postings will remain available here: http://www.rebol.org/aga-display-posts.r?post=r3wp439x1 | 12-Mar-11 23:35 |
| 5285 | Sunanda | The SQLite group is broken ... I suspect a corrupt file on the server. | 12-Mar-11 23:31 |
| 5284 | Sunanda | Thanks Rob. I've fixed that.....Next step is to find out what broke it :) | 28-Feb-11 22:15 |
| 5283 | Kaj | Welcome, Rob | 28-Feb-11 22:14 |
| 5282 | Robking | Ends up giving an incorrect password error. | 28-Feb-11 22:09 |
| 5281 | Robking | Hi everyone. For the record, logging into REBOL-gate as guest/guest doesn't work. | 28-Feb-11 22:08 |
| 5280 | Ladislav | Thanks, Sunanda. | 25-Feb-11 18:16 |
| 5279 | Sunanda | Done! | 25-Feb-11 18:15 |
| 5278 | Ladislav | Reposting Robert's request: How about creating an RMA group? | 25-Feb-11 18:10 |
| 5277 | BrianH | Similar to the Android group. | 12-Feb-11 1:20 |
| 5276 | BrianH | Public group request (probably not web-public yet): WebOS Description: Development for WebOS with REBOL | 12-Feb-11 1:20 |
| 5275 | Kaj | I didn't know it was that problematic on Windows as well - or maybe I also forgot :-) | 2-Feb-11 19:56 |
| 5274 | Maxim | yep on windows. strange, maybe I just forgot or didn't notice your post(s) about it. | 2-Feb-11 19:52 |
| 5273 | Kaj | Is that on Windows? I've been reporting the procedure for Linux here for years | 2-Feb-11 19:47 |
| 5272 | Maxim | then, today I did 11 copy/pastes in a row and was typing at the same time (and they all worked!)... that's when I realized that going from typing to copying was the secret! | 2-Feb-11 17:25 |
| 5271 | Maxim | in the last year, I've been noticing that the message copying worked somehow and there was a pattern... I just coudn't figure it out. | 2-Feb-11 17:23 |
| 5270 | GrahamC | interesting ..! | 2-Feb-11 7:50 |
| 5269 | Maxim | just make sure to click in the message posting text area before right clicking on the post you want to copy ! | 2-Feb-11 2:39 |
| 5268 | Maxim | I've finally broken the secret of how to get reliable message copying to clipboard from altme !!!! | 2-Feb-11 2:38 |
| 5267 | PeterWood | In fact AltME works pretty well for WIndows users as long as they stick to Windows Codepage 1252. | 17-Jan-11 3:34 |
| 5266 | Maxim | yeah damn frenchies ;-) | 17-Jan-11 3:31 |
| 5265 | PeterWood | It's not really a problem if you remember that AttME is designed to support 7-bit ASCII across operating systems. It's just these users that wan't to write some fancy characters ;-) | 17-Jan-11 3:31 |
| 5264 | Maxim | ah yes.. its not just region its also the os that's the problem. | 17-Jan-11 3:28 |
| 5263 | PeterWood | Try these a acute ˆ e grave Ž c circumflex | 17-Jan-11 3:28 |
| 5262 | PeterWood | That's probably because you're using Windows and the people who wrote the messages are also using Windows. | 17-Jan-11 3:25 |
| 5261 | Maxim | I don't have trouble with accents in Altme... its more the germanic/scandinavian chars which skrew up. | 17-Jan-11 3:18 |
| 5260 | PeterWood | Most of accented characters are affected - it makes the messages in FRANCE unreadable. | 17-Jan-11 3:17 |
| 5259 | Ashley | You're right ... just tried it with some quoted text from a Pages document: ÒQuotes are the main culpritÓ | 17-Jan-11 2:51 |
| 5258 | PeterWood | Ashley that overcomes the 'newline" issue with pasting OS X text (\n newlines) into AltME which uses MacRoman (\r newlines) but I don't think that it overcomes the charcter encoding issues. | 17-Jan-11 0:36 |
| 5257 | Ashley | From a previous discussion: Whenever I post something from the clipboard into AltME I make sure I run the following first: cb: func [][ write clipboard:// read clipboard:// ] | 17-Jan-11 0:08 |
| 5256 | PeterWood | Any solutionw would require changes to AltME. | 16-Jan-11 23:55 |
| 5255 | PeterWood | Yes, AltME simply ignores character encoding.It simply regurgitates the text it receives from the client. I believe that REBOL/View uses the default codepage under Windows(not utf-16) and MacRoman under OS/X. I suspect it uses ISO-8859-1 under Linux but am not sure. | 16-Jan-11 23:53 |
| 5254 | Kaj | I think they're each interpreting text according to their own native character set. Windows in UTF-16, OS X and Linux probably in UTF-8. AltME doesn't compensate | 16-Jan-11 19:43 |
| 5253 | Robert | Why are special chars like: ä ö ü ß totally screwed up when posted from OSX and read from a Windows version an vice versa? Is there a solution to this? | 16-Jan-11 18:56 |
| 5252 | GrahamC | I must be subscribed to over 10 mailing lists | 15-Jan-11 4:21 |
| 5251 | BrianH | I'm not opposed to having the mailing list continue, but really dread having to use it, which I will have to if it starts being used. | 15-Jan-11 0:57 |
| 5250 | BrianH | Only when they're used. Many of the people in the community don't really use email anymore (including Carl and me). | 15-Jan-11 0:52 |
| 5249 | RobertS | footnote: the Griswold papers on SNOBOL and ICON ended up in the library at UMN - his collaborators may never have thought of posterity taking an interest. | 15-Jan-11 0:52 |
| 5248 | RobertS | I would make the case that anyone wanting to write a book about the emergence of R3 from an engineering standpoint might want access to an altme archive ... or has that ship also sailed ? Also quite open/transparent: IO language IRC exchanges and the evolution of the Falcon language at falconpl.org with their maillist. But Carl is talking about getting rid of the maillist for Rebol - when archived maillists are often so useful in hindsight. ... | 15-Jan-11 0:50 |
| 5247 | Sunanda | It's easy enough to archive/delete dead groups......Would you like to propose a candidate list? | 5-Jan-11 20:59 |
| 5246 | shadwolf | flush out the altme is great altme has the right too forget things and start blank :) | 5-Jan-11 18:51 |
| 5245 | shadwolf | who cares about old messages ? noone read them anyway ... | 5-Jan-11 18:50 |
| 5244 | Kaj | AltME already attempts to repair message databases since a year or two; it just doesn't work well enough | 5-Jan-11 18:15 |
| 5243 | Kaj | It was during a move, so probably simply not moved or unpacked | 5-Jan-11 18:11 |
| 5242 | Gregg | I don't know that it was a power outage. It was something about files being truncated on the server, then synced to clients, IIRC. | 5-Jan-11 16:43 |
| 5241 | Sunanda | What would be useful isd for RT (or whoever currently holds the development rights for AltME) to publish the API that syncs the local copy with the server. Then the better programmers among us could write a resync/repair tool. Run that routinely before starting AltME, and a number of issues (like the . problem) may be solved. | 5-Jan-11 16:16 |
| 5240 | Steeve | I missed that horror. With a slow connection, when datasets are large and take too much time to reload, Altme performs an automatic deco/reco and all the current loading is lost. Probably because it fails to ping the server during the load. Entering in endless attemps to reload and reload the same dataset. It's an OLD issue, I already notified that in the past. several times. but I always had trouble making myself trust by people who do have not that problem. | 5-Jan-11 16:11 |
| 5239 | Steeve | I missed that horror. With a slow connection, when datasets are large and take too much time to reload, Altme performs an automatic deco/reco and all the current loading is lost. Probably because it fails to ping the server during the load. Entering in endless attemps to reload and reload the same dataset (not sure though). It's an OLD issue, I already notified that in the past. several times. but I always had trouble making myself trust by people who do have not that problem. | 5-Jan-11 16:10 |
| 5238 | Anton | Has anyone done something like that? | 5-Jan-11 13:31 |
| 5237 | Anton | Perhaps we could place all the world files in a Git repo and run a cron job to update the repo regularly. | 5-Jan-11 13:30 |
| 5236 | Anton | I wouldn't be "all fresh and happy" - I'd be a little bit grumpy about it. But I'm interested in how the old messages were lost. Did the power outage occur when AltME was writing files? | 5-Jan-11 13:26 |
| 5235 | Gregg | Reichart, a lot of messages here were actually lost (though some users may have complete backups), because of a server issue. The data was lost on the server, then synced empty datasets to all clients. Not sure if you were around much when that happened, so you may have missed it. | 5-Jan-11 7:44 |
| 5234 | GrahamC | Maybe R can feed it into qtask ... ? | 5-Jan-11 7:40 |
| 5233 | GrahamC | Read it on the web | 5-Jan-11 7:39 |
| 5232 | Steeve | indue = implies (don't ask) | 5-Jan-11 6:41 |
| 5231 | Steeve | I'm connected on a restricted wifi spot. The connections on ports other than 80 are slow like Hell and indue lot of reco/deco (timeout frequently reached in Altme). Due to that, reloading everything in altme is the worst experience. | 5-Jan-11 6:39 |
| 5230 | Reichart | Steeve, I'm a little confused, you say it "lost" something. That should not be the case.
Just unstall AltME, and then reinstall it, it "should" grab a fresh copy of everything. There is a bug that sometimes means you have to post something in a group to get it to kick start. But in general, this should work. It will take a few minutes to get everything, but you should be all fresh and happy once it does. | 5-Jan-11 3:41 |
| 5229 | Steeve | logon 4-Jan-2011/20:16:26+1:00 ["on" "Rebol3" "Steeve" 69.164.199.93 5400] note 4-Jan-2011/20:17+1:00 ["Forcing update on msg set" 146] note 4-Jan-2011/20:17+1:00 ["Forcing update on msg set" 148] note 4-Jan-2011/20:17+1:00 ["Forcing update on msg set" 150] ... note 4-Jan-2011/20:25:51+1:00 ["Forcing update on msg set" 832] | 4-Jan-11 19:53 |
| 5228 | Steeve | F*** Altme; it's currently reloading all Groups (incidentaly old messages are lost) because of a power outage. I HATE THIS. | 4-Jan-11 19:52 |
| 5227 | BrianH | Welcome to an OS with two clipboards :( | 31-Dec-10 18:08 |
| 5226 | Kaj | Welcome to state of the art technology in the year 2011 | 31-Dec-10 16:47 |
| 5225 | Kaj | Also, the order is critical. You have to empty the target area in the X app, then cut in AltME, then go back to the X app and use middle click to paste | 31-Dec-10 16:47 |
| 5224 | Kaj | It's the X11 clipboard hell. There are two of them, and AltME uses the one where you have to use middle mouse click to paste in X apps | 31-Dec-10 16:45 |
| 5223 | RobertS | Linux 1.2.25 altme in response to click on a URL in a post reports copy to clipboard. Nix occurs on Gnome desktop. Is this true for KDE ? | 31-Dec-10 14:42 |
| 5222 | RobertS | yes | 27-Dec-10 17:00 |
| 5221 | nve | Is there a group, interest for REBOL IDE ? | 18-Dec-10 13:37 |
| 5220 | DKnell | me too, I am so used to having to try and export stuff and then import in a new install | 16-Dec-10 13:26 |
| 5219 | DKnell | copied, working fine, although I had to go through the simple installation process on other pc. the exe wouldn't just 'run' - all data seems fine | 16-Dec-10 13:25 |
| 5218 | Pekr | I really like copy&run aproach ... | 16-Dec-10 13:21 |
| 5217 | Pekr | I am using altme from time to time from my USB stick (a bit slow, due probably to slow flash disk plus the way how altme relies on heavy file access, but still usable), and the only thing I need is to just copy it ... | 16-Dec-10 13:21 |
| 5216 | DKnell | very true | 16-Dec-10 13:18 |
| 5215 | Henrik | ok, if you have two machines, you can easily try it out. | 16-Dec-10 13:17 |
| 5214 | DKnell | ah just need to drag a shortcut, should be easy enough. This system is being formatted thats all and I didn't want to redownload all content again | 16-Dec-10 13:16 |
| 5213 | Henrik | also, you can run several instances simultaneously to the same world, so you are free to test it out first. | 16-Dec-10 13:15 |
| 5212 | Henrik | copy: I don't think so, just the AltME directory. It's possible that you may have trouble starting it from the start menu, if you have not installed it first. I'm not sure. | 16-Dec-10 13:14 |
| 5211 | DKnell | I'm just amazed the program and data all fit in 52.5mb | 16-Dec-10 13:13 |
| 5210 | DKnell | do I need to copy any other files too? | 16-Dec-10 13:11 |
| 5209 | Henrik | it should work, yes | 16-Dec-10 13:10 |
| 5208 | DKnell | if I move my altme folder to another windows installation will it still work fine? sorry for the nOOb question | 16-Dec-10 13:07 |
| 5207 | Sunanda | !REBOL3 Gui is now [web-public] -- may take an hour for the content to fully apear on REBOL.org. I'll change the others in the next couple of days, unless there are any objections. | 10-Dec-10 22:54 |
| 5206 | Oldes | I agree with Maxim, that it should be public. | 9-Dec-10 16:25 |
| 5205 | Sunanda | Good points, Max. Given posts-to-date have been made on the assumption that they are not [web public], we'd need some general agreement from the contributors (or at least no vetos) before transitioning to web public. So.....anyone object? | 9-Dec-10 16:20 |
| 5204 | Maxim | for example, the host-kit and extensions group are the best reference for someone wanting to get up to speed. it has discussions and a few web links on further on-line resources which some of us have posted. | 9-Dec-10 15:54 |
| 5203 | Maxim | why aren't all of the !REBOL3 groups web-public? I think they are the best source of news for what is going on with R3 right now. | 9-Dec-10 15:54 |
| 5202 | Oldes | The solution is known as well - add enter for each 40 chars of the URL length :) | 9-Dec-10 0:00 |
| 5201 | Reichart | Yup, known, well.... | 8-Dec-10 23:22 |
| 5200 | nve | But short URL, no problem http://www.rebol.com | 8-Dec-10 23:15 |
| 5199 | nve | The link is working... But it is written correctly in blue with hyperlink only http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi?thread=%3C26Nov20101203072 and to the end of url it is in black... | 8-Dec-10 23:15 |
| 5198 | nve | Does someone report the presentation bug of long url ?
Sorry my english explanation...
But let's show an exmple : http://www.digicamsoft.com/cgi-bin/rebelBB.cgi?thread=%3C26Nov2010120307258032100%3E | 8-Dec-10 23:13 |
| 5197 | Gregg | Done. | 3-Dec-10 5:09 |
| 5196 | BrianH | It would also be a good place to discuss using REBOL to generate apps in Java (often easier than writing it directly in my experience). | 2-Dec-10 21:16 |
| 5195 | Pekr | or Porting R3 | 2-Dec-10 21:14 |
| 5194 | Pekr | we can use hostkit temporarily, no? Or extensions? | 2-Dec-10 21:14 |
| 5193 | BrianH | An Android group would be helpful. With the tagline "Development for Android with REBOL". | 2-Dec-10 21:13 |
| 5192 | Gregg | Welcome to the freedom of being reborn. Forget your past and start fresh. I'm just a few weeks old now myself. | 22-Nov-10 6:18 |
| 5191 | Rebolek | All my private discussion with one user in this world that hasn't take place today dissappeared just now. Only today's messages left, while ten minutes ago, there were all messages. | 21-Nov-10 13:32 |
| 5190 | Maxim | though in qtask, I discovered, that if you switch window and come back to altme, the copy may work the first time. the focal support in R2 sucks. its just weirdly implemented and it creates many bugs, especially since most faces share their para object by default. I've added this to my style init in many new styles: [para: make para []] | 19-Nov-10 22:02 |
| 5189 | Maxim | really? I've never had problems. | 19-Nov-10 21:59 |
| 5188 | Gregg | REBOL's clipboard interface can be inconsistent even outside of AltMe. | 19-Nov-10 21:38 |
| 5187 | Kaj | Windows doesn't work consistently, period, but that's just a force of nature ;-) | 19-Nov-10 20:10 |
| 5186 | Maxim | (in altme!) | 19-Nov-10 19:23 |
| 5185 | Gregg | The clipboard under Windows doesn't always work consistently either. | 19-Nov-10 18:39 |
| 5184 | Izkata | I have no idea how they interact if run through WINE, I avoid using it as much as possible | 19-Nov-10 15:40 |
| 5183 | Izkata | AltME works, as long as you remember it goes to the X clipboard. Gtk/etc applications access it with highlight/middle click, while AltME uses Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V. The other linux clipboard (can't remember what supplies it) is accessed by Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V in Gtk/etc applications. This one, AltME and Rebol can't access. | 19-Nov-10 15:39 |
| 5182 | Anton | (Did I never try that...?) | 19-Nov-10 13:19 |
| 5181 | Anton | Uh! It does work. (!) It goes to the middle-click clipboard. | 19-Nov-10 13:18 |
| 5180 | Anton | write clipboard:// "hello" ; Doesn't work on Rebol/View 2.7.7.4.2 | 19-Nov-10 13:15 |
| 5179 | Henrik | Does the standard REBOL clipboard:// behave like in AltME? | 19-Nov-10 13:10 |
| 5178 | Anton | Quite a while back I was confused about the clipboard in Kubuntu. I investigated heavily until I understood what was happening, that there were two clipboards and how they are used. I think I did a small bit of tweaking to Kubuntu settings, but basically it was just learning how it worked and practising a bit that cured my confusion. I got used to it and don't have much trouble with it in other apps. AltME is the exception - it just doesn't copy and paste consistently for some reason. | 19-Nov-10 13:09 |
| 5177 | Kaj | Petr, it's a big security hole, because the AltME server uses a multitude of the file size in memory during the upload, which can easily crash the server and at least overloads the swap space | 18-Nov-10 21:59 |
| 5176 | Kaj | It's a symptom of both. Other Linux apps also act horribly, but not that horrible | 18-Nov-10 21:54 |
| 5175 | Izkata | Kaj: That's a symptom of linux, not of AltME. See https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=79812 (AltME uses the X clipboard, the same one used when highlighting text) | 18-Nov-10 18:32 |
| 5174 | Pekr | as an ordinary user. But I am a world master ... | 18-Nov-10 14:16 |
| 5173 | Sunanda | Did you do it on the client side as world master, or as an ordinary user? | 18-Nov-10 13:29 |
| 5172 | Pekr | You are guru, it works. But I did it on the client side. Isn't it a bit of a security limit, if user can set-it himself? | 18-Nov-10 13:13 |
| 5171 | Pekr | I will try .... | 18-Nov-10 13:11 |
| 5170 | Oldes | Ah.. isn't it in the settings - filesize limit? There is 8MB. | 18-Nov-10 13:07 |
| 5169 | Pekr | I tried to create a zip archive, but it is about the same size, so no help. IIRC there was some AltME version, which allowed to use bigger sizes? I think it would be good to have it as a command-line option for the server startup. It is my private world, and I would allow 20MB easily. It is not first time I got file bigger than 10MB I needed to post .... | 18-Nov-10 13:05 |
| 5168 | Oldes | you can split whatever.. but I know, it's not a solution, I don't know the correct answer. | 18-Nov-10 13:04 |
| 5167 | Pekr | PDF? :-) | 18-Nov-10 13:03 |
| 5166 | Oldes | split it to multiple parts? | 18-Nov-10 13:00 |
| 5165 | Pekr | How to allow more than 8MB of file being uploaded on my AltME server? | 18-Nov-10 12:51 |
| 5164 | Anton | I opened a new document in my usual text editor to paste the entire message text into it, so there was no other field involved. | 18-Nov-10 5:54 |
| 5163 | Kaj | If by fine you mean that you first have to go to the target paste area (for example a browser address bar), clear it, then to AltME and copy the text, and then back to the paste area and use the middle mouse button to paste. Any deviation from this procedure will break it in weird ways | 17-Nov-10 20:32 |
| 5162 | Izkata | Seems to work fine in 1.2.25 on linux natively.. | 17-Nov-10 19:02 |
| 5161 | Henrik | I see the copy issue too. | 17-Nov-10 15:08 |
| 5160 | Anton | It's been a while since I updated the exe manually. I thought the auto-update was taking care of that. | 17-Nov-10 15:02 |
| 5159 | Sunanda | I often see the right-click-fail-to-copy problem. Though not the disappearing messages one. That's with 1.2.26 Windows. | 17-Nov-10 14:59 |
| 5158 | Anton | 1.2.25 wine on linux. | 17-Nov-10 14:59 |
| 5157 | Oldes | I can copy using right-click without problems. Even when I select the text. What Altme version do you have? | 17-Nov-10 13:46 |
| 5156 | Anton | That was Oldes' message in Tech News. | 17-Nov-10 12:58 |
| 5155 | Anton | Bug: The old inconsistent bug of failing to copy the text of a message by simple right-click prevented me from copying Oldes' message with the long referrer link and cookie data in it, so I selected the message text first before right-click. That worked, but then all messages in the display began disappearing (looks like a shared para scroll bug). Even switching groups. Right now I'm looking at !AltME with several blank messages - only the dates appear normally. | 17-Nov-10 12:55 |
| 5154 | Henrik | I noticed something interesting: When you are reading a red group, the column in the left hand side is colored yellow for unread posts. When switching group, there is for me a waiting period of about 2-3 seconds, for large groups before the new group appears. However before the group switches, the coloration disappears, suggesting that a redraw of the list takes place before the switch. If this redraw was removed, switching columns might take much less time, perhaps half as long. | 16-Nov-10 18:06 |
| 5153 | BrianH | Wow, I wasn't even trying! :) | 10-Nov-10 17:46 |
| 5152 | Kaj | :-) | 10-Nov-10 16:26 |
| 5151 | Maxim | hehe | 10-Nov-10 9:08 |
| 5150 | Sunanda | [So was I:) I could have cheated and posted 150,000th myself.....But that would have been cheating) Nevermind, Maxim, 250,000th is the big one. | 10-Nov-10 9:07 |
| 5149 | Maxim | darn.... I was soooooo close ;-) | 10-Nov-10 9:05 |